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bassbone8vb

#1322


Hi,
My name is Bob. I am an orchestra teacher by day and a trombonist by
night. I have been using BIAB for about 3 years now but have an awful
lot to learn, so this group should be fun for me!! I do have one
question; I know BIAB can create soloist files by analyzing a soloists
style, is there a way to generate horn parts in the same manner ala
Chicago horns or Phoenix brass (EWAF)??? I just started playing with a
show band and am in the process of writing these parts myself, a BIAB
program would help greatly!!!

Bob "Notes" Norton
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#1323


At 05:17 PM 7/21/01 -0400, "bassbone8vb" <bassbone8vb@...> wrote:

[SNIP] is there a way to generate horn parts in the same manner ala
Chicago horns or Phoenix brass (EWAF)??? I just started playing with a
show band and am in the process of writing these parts myself, a BIAB
program would help greatly!!!

I have used Band-in-a-Box for writing horn parts. You might try this.

Record the high horn part in the Melody track of Band-in-a-Box. I use a
wind controller for this (and filter out the irrelevant continuous
controller data before going into the computer's MIDI port).

Than you can use BiaB's harmony feature to write the harmony lines for your
horn part. In many (but not all) cases this works like a charm, saving you
hours of work.

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Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Marius Dahl Knudsen

#1324


Hi.
I have a question regarding this topic. When I use the "harmonize"
function with the "melody" as mentioned by Bob Norton, I don´t see the
harmonies written out in the notation window, just the melody. I can
check the notes on the visual keyboard, but it would be a lot easier, if
the various harmony-styles would be generated onto the notation window
as played. Is there any way of achieving that?
(I have vers. 10, full package)
Thanks
Marius Dahl Knuden

Bob "Notes" Norton
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#1328


At 10:41 AM 7/22/01 +0200, "Marius Dahl Knudsen" <marius@...> wrote:

... When I use the "harmonize"
function with the "melody" as mentioned by Bob Norton, I don´t see the
harmonies written out in the notation window, just the melody....
but it would be a lot easier, if
the various harmony-styles would be generated onto the notation window
as played. Is there any way of achieving that?

I've never noticed that. I always export my work from BiaB to a MIDI file
and tweak it in a sequencer. Not that what comes out of BiaB is bad, but I
find (A) it can always be improved and (B) I simply enjoy tweaking the
music to make it better. I don't stop tweaking until I feel I have gotten
way past the point of diminishing returns (when big blocks of tweaking time
yields little improvement).

When I am done tweaking my MIDI file, if I have anything to print, I move
it over to a music publishing program (I have Encore, but I understand
there are some newer, even better programs out now).

The advantages of using a publishing program instead of the notation
feature of BiaB is the control you have over the fonts, spacing, layout,
etc. BiaB does a decent job of printing notation (remember, it's primary
function is auto-accompaniment) -- but a real publishing program is capable
of producing top-notch charts.

Before exporting your file to MIDI, you might want to consider if you want
the harmony parts are going to be on the same track or different tracks.
This is selectable in Opt. then Preferences... in the menu bar.

Also, it is sometimes good to create a copy of your MIDI file (so you don't
mess up the original), remove the parts you don't want printed, and
quantize the parts you do want printed (it makes it easier for the notation
program to guess what kind of note you really mean). Be careful if you have
both triplets and doublets when quantizing, you might want to quantize a
section at a time.

I suppose this isn't much of a help if you don't have either a MIDI
sequencer that does notation or a notation program. I am not too familiar
with PT Pro (I'd love it if it had a piano roll editor) so I don't know if
you can print the harmony parts using it or not.

- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Marius Dahl Knudsen

#1332


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPSSSSSS!!
Sorry folks.
I happened to take a look in my manual page 128, there was my answer.

Sorry to trouble the list due to impatience in the middle of lots of
arranging.

Thanks for the answer, Bob.

Cheers Marius

bassbone8vb@netzero.com

#1331


not sure if you are replying to my message, but I have used
harmonies, but I would like to see an add-on that would generate
background horn parts for a rock band in the style of chicago or
earth wind and fire. maybe one of the styles disks already does this?

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